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Famous Buddhists


Here are some famous people around the world happened to be Buddhists. I don't know are they good buddhists or not. In the other hand, I even don't know is there such a thing as "Good Buddhist" or "Bad Buddhists".
Richard Grer said 'Western Buddhists in many ways are much serious Buddhists'. So I like to say here is a list of some famous serious Buddhists.

Lisa Simpson The Buddhist Lisa Simpson
My favorite Buddhist.
According to Indian reveals that she will be the "first straight female US President"
Steve Jobs The Buddhist Steve Jobs
CEO & Founder, Apple, Pixar and a Cancer Survivor

Jennifer Lopez The Buddhist Jennifer Lopez
She is intrigued by Buddhism after being introduced to the philosophy by Hollywood convert Richard Gere.
George Lucas The Buddhist George Lucas
"I was raised Methodist. Now let's say I'm spiritual. It's Marin County. We're all Buddhists up here"

Tina Turner The Buddhist Tina Turner
"I'm not wise, but the beginning of wisdom is there; it's like relaxing into - and an acceptance of - things."
Harrison Ford The Buddhist Harrison Ford
Actor, Carpenter
"Peace is not the absence of war but the presence of justice"

Angelina Jolie The Buddhist Angelina Jolie
Angelina tattooed a Buddhist Sanskrit prayer on her right shoulder.
Peter Norton The Buddhist Peter Norton
Creator of Norton Software.
Once a Buddhist Monk & spend five years in a Buddhist monastery.

Alanis Morissette The Buddhist Alanis Morissette
Bisexual Canadian singer, Seven time Grammy winner.
I used to love this girl and I still do!
Roberto Baggio The Buddhist Roberto Baggio
Italian footballer.
Always just a little outside of the box, practicing Buddhist in a country full of Catholics.

Kate Bosworth The Buddhist Kate Bosworth
Actress. Superman Returns,Bee Season,The Rules of Attraction.
Boy George The Buddhist Boy George
Good Old Crazy Homosexual Boy George!
Any one can be a Buddhist!

Goldie Hawn The Buddhist Goldie Hawn
"I practice Buddhist philosophy and contemplation but I don't know if I'm more of anything."
Michael Stipe The Buddhist Michael Stipe
Lead Singer - R.E.M
"I'm not homosexual, I'm not hetrosexual, I'm just sexual"

Uma Thurman The Buddhist Uma hurman
Actress, Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction
Herschel Savage The Buddhist Herschel Savage
Porn Star
Slept with all the pretty ladies and got paid for it! Enjoying Good Karma!

Ricky Martin The Buddhist Ricky Martin
"Livin' la Vida Loca"
Jackie Chan The Buddhist Jackie Chan
Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie. Study computers instead.

Bruce Lee The Buddhist Bruce Lee
"Circumstances hell! I make circumstances!"
Jet Li The Buddhist Jet Li
"Especially in the past eight years, the Buddhist thoughts shaped my ideology"

William Clay Ford The Buddhist William Clay Ford
Executive Chairman of Ford
President, CEO, and COO of Boeing till 2006
David Bowie The Buddhist David Bowie
English Grammy Winning singer
"I was a Buddhist mime songwriter and a part-time sax player."

Orlando Bloom Ford The Buddhist Orlando Bloom
Actor, Pirates of the Caribbean, Kingdom of Heaven, Troy, The Lord of the Rings, Black Hawk Down
Richard Gere The Buddhist Richard Gere
"Western Buddhists in many ways are much serious Buddhists than Tibetans are."

Steven Seagal Ford The Buddhist Steven Seagal
"I have no fear of death. More important, I don't fear life."
Tiger Woods The Buddhist Tiger Woods
"If you can't laugh at yourself, then who can you laugh at?"

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11 February, 2007

posted by Sam at 6:02 AM | links to this post | 7 comments

Dalai Lama, Buddhism and Homosexuality


"It's part of what we Buddhists call 'bad sexual conduct.' Sexual organs were created for reproduction between the male element and the female element and everything that deviates from that is not acceptable from a Buddhist point of view. Between a man an [another]man, a woman and another woman, in the mouth, the anus, or even using a hand." (the DL mimes masturbation)...
(June 1997, San Francisco ~ Dalai Lama)

Also mentioned this only applied to Buddhists. This didn't make any sense to me. It didn't sound Correct. I can question any Buddhist teaching no matter who said it(1) so I decide to exercise that right.

Sexual organs were created for reproduction

I can't agree. Human sexual organs are created for sex & pleaser more than reproduction. Humans anatomy & humans approach to sex very much deferent than other primates. Example: Human female is the only female does not display ovulating period, but sexually capable most of her life ~ even after her lose the reproduction capability. Human female is the only female primate capable of sexual orgasm. Not only that, some woman are may even reach orgasm as a result of stimulation of her breasts, ears and other body parts (Kinsey Research) (more info: The Naked Woman, The Naked Ape)

Non sexual relationship between same sex is very much welcome in almost every religion including Buddhism. But the issue starts when sex involved. Sex is always hot topic for everyone ~ even to religious leaders. 

In Buddhism any kind of sexual relationship or activity totally prohibit for monks - only for the monks. There is no question about it.

There are no rules for laypeople in Buddhism. There are guidelines, not rules. When Dalai Lama refer to 'bad sexual conduct' he refer to the third precept of 5 precepts of Buddhism. That is : 'not to engage in wrong way for sexual pleasure'. Buddha never mention anything about homosexuality for laypeople or any other none-traditional sexual orientations ~ he discuss about the sexuality as one entity. Even though Buddha explains about bad side of worldly pleasers, he did not deny any worldly pleasers to laypeople. Matter of fact he even explain how to enjoy worldly pleasers with mindfulness. Also reproduction is not compulsory in Buddhism. Not only that.. even marriage is not compulsory in Buddhism. (but culture naturally override those)

What is the wrong way for sexual pleaser really?
I remember the monk who teach Buddhism in the school had very difficult time trying to (not) explain that. I have kind of similar problem now when trying to explain that, because there are no clear definition about 'wrong way' in here. Is that cheating, rapeing, child molestation? Or is that none-traditional sexual activity? Is that engaging in sexual activity just for pleaser, not for reproduction? Is that sexual thoughts? Is that homosexuality? Or is that altogether? What is right and what is wrong?

I'm not really helpless here. Buddha explain three main guidelines to judge an action right or wrong. So I'm going to put this into those three tests and see how it will come out.

  1. How do I feel if that action done toward me.
    It does not matter man or woman, if some one forcefully have sexual activity, then that is sexual violation I do not like - that is wrong.
    But in the other hand, if I happened to be homosexual & also if I had a relationship with other adult homosexual, then it will become a partnership both people get benefited form. I have seen couple of homosexual couples enjoying good life. They too have big problems like Petrol price or global-warming, and all other human problems.
    I can't separate heterosexuality and homosexuality using this test. They both look the same here.
    But I can filter adultery, rape, and all other sexual violation as the wrong way from this test.
     
  2. The deed which causes remorse afterwards and results in weeping and tears is ill-done. The deed which causes no remorse afterwards and results in joy and happiness is well-done.
    Well. I have to agree with Bob Marley in here. No woman ~ No Cry.
    I have seen more heterosexual people cry for heterosexual relationship more than homosexual people. Looks like it do not matter type of the relationship, if I do something make me regret afterward, then it is wrong.
    I can't separate heterosexuality and homosexuality using this test. They both look the same here anyway.
     
  3. Whether the action is helpful to goal of Nirvana
    In Buddhism, the final goal is to obtain the ultimate happiness - Nirvana. Work toward that, Buddhists have to do good deeds. If the action base on generosity, love and compassion then it is an action toward Nirvana. If a person maintain a clear mind, even he is heterosexual or homosexual he is working toward the nirvana. If a person maintain a quality relationship no matter who is the partner is, then that person working toward Nirvana.
    This test does not help me to separate heterosexuality from homosexuality. Bad relationship is bad relationship, no matter who the partner is. 

In that case I have to decide Dalai Lama's quote is not the Buddhist point of view as he clam

In Buddhism homosexual Buddhist and heterosexual Buddhist both are equal humans. None superior to other. Homosexual relationship and heterosexual relationship both are similar and both have similar consequences.

By the way This is not unconditional - just like everything else in the world. If one act openly gay where homosexuality is not tolerated, then results may be weeping and tears even it is right thing or wrong thing. Buddha have mention try not to involve in actions does not tolerated by the society or declared as illegal, even they are 'good' actions. So in that case Gay Pride parade is not a good idea in Sri Lanka.

Bottom line is, Just like Dalai Lama said 'He is just a monk - nothing more - nothing less'. But after all, he is most famous Buddhist in the world. In that case I like him help everyone to have a better relationship with love and generosity no matter who's the partner happened to be.

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31 August, 2006

posted by Sam at 9:54 AM | links to this post | 6 comments